Wednesday, May 12, 2010
Introduction to My Freshman Year
I am a freshman student from the University of Wisconsin Eau Claire. I thought the author's description of college students is not 100% accurate and is somewhat biased towards the drinking and cheating students. Other than over emphasizing cheating and the amount of drinking in college, I believe Nathan's book is accurate. My experience of being a freshman college student did affect how I read the book. I was comparing what she wrote to my personal experiences as I read.
I was excited to read this book because I wanted to see what a college professor thought about being a student before, during, and after becoming a college freshman. That is exactly what this book does, however I did not enjoy reading this book because her thoughts, opinions, and things she experiences are very biased. It seems that she looks for all the negatives in things, whether it be decorations people have on their doors, or the way they manage and spend their time. She seems to rip on the "average" freshman, put the exchange students on a pedestal, and praise the seniors for all they have accomplished. The good honorable freshman that many of us are, are never mentioned. If i wrote about my freshman year it would be a very different book.
Before reading this book I didn't really know what a professor would do immersed in the life of a college student, but now, after reading this book I have gained a different perspective on life as a college student and also saw the problems that a college campus possesses. One of the problems on campus that I was vaugley aware of before I read this book was the lack of diversity present on a typical American campus, but now after reading this book I became aware of what problems do exist and what needs to be done to change them. Altogether Nathan both surprised me by her research results as well as her conclusions on this topic.
I wanted to read this book because I was interested in what an outsider would say about my culture. I never seemed to notice the negative sides of the college experience, but I also believe that Nathan had a somewhat different experience than me due to her age. This book describes the freshman life pretty accurately apart from the social aspect. Kids tend to hang around people similar to themselves, so when someone is older they tend to be left out. I very often compared my own freshman year to her experience and besides a few little things it tended to be right on.
Tuesday, May 11, 2010
10 Sources for More Information
http://www.collegeleader.org/articles-campus-details.php?articlesID=57
Bomar, Chuck. “Campus Subcultures: Part 2.” Collegeleader.org. Web. 11 May 2010.
http://www.collegeleader.org/articles-campus-details.php?articlesID=58
Bomar, Chuck. “Campus Subcultures: Part 3.” Collegeleader.org. Web. 11 May 2010.
http://www.collegeleader.org/articles-campus-details.php?articlesID=59
Bomar, Chuck. “Campus Subcultures: Part 4.” Collegeleader.org. Web. 11 May 2010.
http://www.collegeleader.org/articles-campus-details.php?articlesID=60
Barrik, Audrey. “College Students and Sexual Addiction.” Collegeleader.org. Web. 11 May 2010.
http://www.collegeleader.org/articles-campus-details.php?articlesID=33
Jaschik, Scott. “The New Student Excuse.” Insidehighered.com. Web. 11 May 2010.
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/06/05/corrupted
Brady, Jonann. “Binge Drinking Entrenched in College Culture.” abcnews.go.com. Web. 11 May 2010.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Health/story?id=1085909
Northcutt, Frances, Mark W. Bernstein, and Yadin Kaufmann. How to Survive Your Freshman Year. Atlanta, Ga.: Hundreds of Heads, 2008. Print.
http://books.google.com/books?id=WzYjMmIbeEgC&pg=PA296&dq=my+freshman+year&cd=3#v=onepage&q=my%20freshman%20year&f=false
Been There, Should've Done That: 995 Tips for Making the Most of College. Lansing, MI: Front Porch, 2008. Print.
Malone, Michael S. The Everything College Survival Book. Avon, MA: Adams Media, 2005. Print.
“Debunking the Myths of American College Culture.” Yaleherald.com. Web. 11 May 2010.
http://www.yaleherald.com/archive/xxxii/09.07.01/opinion/p9vider.html
Ch.8 Organizer - Natalie
Before going into this project Nathan knew she would need to blend in to experience college life as well as not blend in when she wanted to interview people for research and such. After beginning her work she realized it was much easier to withhold information about her real non-student life. There were only three instances in which she shared her personal information. She also struggled with what she could wright down as to the fact sometimes what she heard was because of eavesdropping not information that was actually directed toward her. She had to keep in mind her students many times when writing especially when writing about the topic of cheating. Because she wanted to be conscientious of the students at AnyU not all her experiences are written in her book, but they are, and will be in her heart forever.
Discussion Leader for Ch. 8 by Chip Fox
We think the main point of her experiment was to get a better understanding of the students she was teaching and to research a particular culture that seems to be completely different than when she went to college.
2.) What do you think was the hardest part of going back to college for her?
We think the hardest part of going back to college for her was being social. Since she is considerably older than the general population in that particular culture, it might have been difficult and scary to have to go out and meet people, rather than just staying in her room.
3.) Overall, do you think Nathan had a positive experience during her experiment or a negative experience?
We thought that Nathan had sort of a mixed experience. She had a positive experience because she learned a lot and had some friends that she talked to and got together with. But she had a negative experience because what she learned about the students had a negative tone when she was describing it, and we think she might have been disappointed when she found out how students have their own set friends and usually do not stray from the group.
4.) If you were in her shoes, a professor at a big university, would you go back to college for a year?
Our group voted unanimously “no”. We think it would be very difficult and outside of our comfort zones to go back to college as a grown individual, and have to be around and converse with students much younger than we are.
Chapter 8 - Summary (Beka W.)
Reading 8 Vocabulary Mr. Pesavent
Fabricate-to devise or invent-159
Immersed-plunged or sunk in or as if in a liquid-160
Entails-to impose as a burden-161
Divulged-to disclose or reveal -162
Titularly-pertaining to, or of the nature of a title-162
Privy-private; assigned to private uses-163
Albeit-Even though; although-164
Bolster-pillow, cushion, or pad-165
Auspices-Protection or support; patronage-166
Voyeurism-A person who derives sexual gratification from observing the naked bodies or sexual acts of others, especially from a secret vantage point-167
Monday, May 10, 2010
My Freshman Year: May 10, 2010
John's final thoughts
I signed up for this book to see how other people viewed the college subculture. I was very interested in how she would portray our behaviors. As I began reading, I realized this book was a little more difficult than I originally thought. Throughout the readings I was constantly comparing and contrasting what I was reading and what I personally experienced. To be honest, her findings were accurate for the most part. However, there were things that she did to make it slightly inaccurate. I thought it was very interesting getting a look at my own culture from someone else's point of view. I would recommend this book to anyone who would be interested in learning more about the college freshman culture or any college student who would like to see their own culture from another perspective.
Chip's Final Thoughts
I was interested in this book right when the title was introduced in class. I thought it would be very interesting to be able to see what another person thought about the same experience I am just finishing. When I started reading this book I was interested in what Nathan was saying because I kept thinking about how well that described my experience. However, I do think that her findings about the dorm life, were somewhat influenced from her opinion. Something that really stood out was how different relationships are between American students and students in other countries. I have grown up with American customs and I never thought anything of it. I wonder if her findings would be any different if she was in a smaller school than ASU since many people who go to a big university go with a set group of friends. I definitely enjoyed this book and would recommend it to others. It is a fairly good description of what goes on freshman year of college, except for the off-campus life and social aspect. I do however, feel that Nathan had a major handicap due to her age because some people might not feel as comfortable around someone older than them.
Ch. 7 Graphic Organizer by Chip Fox
Discussion - Beka W. (Chapter 7)
We as a group believed that Nathan became a better professor due to her new-found awareness of students and even developed an empathy for the students she was teaching as well as finding compassion for her students. We thought that the individual at the end of the book was very different than the person in the beginning of the book.
How does Nathan become like the typical college student she researched?
Our group saw Nathan becoming more and more like the students as the book progressed. For example, Nathan began to slack off and saw herself starting to do poorly in a particular class and even marveled at how easy it is to fall behind. It was interesting to see Nathan becoming less diligent and an "average" student as the book went on.
Do you feel that student-teacher relationships play a vital role in a student's first year experience or a small one?
Our group agreed that a professor can truly make or break a class. If there is a professor that is easy to approach and takes a general interest in students then a freshman's first year could really improve academic wise. A few of us have met several professors that we enjoyed getting to know and have truly made our first year at college both memorable and enjoyable.
Do you feel more teachers/professors would benefit from seeing students "on the other side"?
We definitely thought that professors would be different if they saw life at college from a student's perspective. They would deal with the pressures, joys, lows, and triumphs of college life and notice the struggles and the simple acts of kindness from professors that go a long way.
Vocabulary Ch. 7 - Natalie
Placating (134) - to make somebody less angry, upset, or hostile, usually by doing or saying things to please him or her
Officious (pg 134) - characteristic of somebody who is eager to give unwanted help or advice
Superlative (pg 134) - of the highest quality or degree
Anthropological (pg 135) - relating to the study of humankind, especially the study of cultures
Relativist (pg 135) - the belief that concepts such as right and wrong, goodness and badness, or truth and falsehood are not absolute but change from culture to culture and situation to situation
Tacit (pg 135) - understood or implied without being stated openly
Interim (pg 136) - serving as a temporary measure until something more complete and permanent can be established
Appreciable (pg 137) - large or important enough to be noticed
Colloquium (pg 155) - an academic conference or seminar in which a particular topic is discussed, often with guest speakers
Chapter 7 Summarizer Mr. Pesavent
Sunday, May 9, 2010
Chip Fox Vocab Ch. 6
Monolithic (p.107) - (of an organization or system) large, powerful, and intractably indivisible and uniform
Hedonistic (p.108) - the pursuit of pleasure; sensual self-indulgence.
Pedagogical (p.109) - of or relating to teaching
Thwart (p.112) - oppose (a plan, attempt, or ambition) successfully
Encapsulates (p.113) - enclose (something) in or as if in a capsule
Touting (p.116) - attempt to sell (something), typically by pestering people in an aggressive or bold manner
Mantra (p. 127) - a word or sound repeated to aid concentration in meditation
Recalcitrant (p.128) - having an obstinately uncooperative attitude toward authority or discipline
Dissipates (p.128) - disperse or scatter
Wrest (p.130) - forcibly pull (something) from a person's grasp
Friday, May 7, 2010
Ch. 6 Summarizer - Natalie
Chapter Six - Graphic Organizer - Beka
today operates. There are three key elements, Nathan stresses that
contribute to the ebb and flow of college and they are: good time
management skills, getting a "good" schedule, and cooperating
effectively with professors. However, she also addresses the little
preparation students do before class as well as the large amount
of cheating that does indeed occur on campuses across the nation
today. Nathan wraps up the chapter with an image of a senior
college student that has battled the storms of college and has
emerged as a successful student that prepares well for classes, navigates classes well,and cheats little or none at all. Overall, the ending of the chapter helped
show that students do become successful if they try and offered
hope to almost a dismal portrayl of college students.
Discussion Leader Chapter 6 Mr. Pesavent
Time management is important in college because it allows students to have freetime during the day. If students do not manage their time wisely, they won't have enough time to finish their assignments, study for exams, or hang out with their friends. Effective time management can also help stress from building up because each student knows what they have in store for them each week.
2. Why is course scheduling so important?
According to the book, course scheduling is considered an art that must be mastered in order for it to be the most effective. There are multiple things to keep in mind when registering for classes. On page 113, Nathan wrote that the times that each class takes place is the most important thing to remember while registering for classes. In the group's opinion, we think that the quality of the professor is considered before the time of the class. Course scheduling is important because it helps with time management and can really make or break a student's semester.
3. Why do students skip class as much as they do?
Many students skip class for numerous reasons. These reasons include the weather, how tired the student is, importance of the class, what they are going to do during the class, to do homework, to sleep, and many more. Most students who skip feel they can do well in a class whether they skip or not. Most professors do not have very big consequences for students who miss class.
4. Why is cheating so common in college?
Cheating is common in college because it is very easy to do and is very rewarding. In the chapter, Nathan declares behaviors such as working on assignments together and signing friends in on attendance is cheating. Our group disagrees and does not consider those as cheating. Many people cheat in order to do well and to earn a better GPA. Other students do it because the test was written unfairly or just to check their answers with people around them.
Wednesday, May 5, 2010
My Freshman Year: May 5, 2010
Summary of Ch. 5 by Chip Fox
In Ch. 5, Nathan brings up the differences between classroom talk and dorm talk. In the classroom, people discuss things like "Did you do the reading for today?" and "Did we have anything due today?" (Nathan 97). But students never ask what people thought about the reading or if it impacted them in any way. In the dorms, students usually discuss the following topics: sex, body image, relationships, childhood, entertainment, and drug experiences (98). Nathan also brings up the question of "If the university would hand you a bachelor's degree right now, provided you paid for all your credits and left the dorms, would you take the degree and leave?" (101). Two-thirds of the respondents replied that they would not "take the degree and leave", but would want to stay and finish their years to earn the degree (101). Nathan observes that the reasons are widely varied from wanting the true college experience, to worrying about what it would be like in the real world. The last topic Nathan brings up is the "perfect class" which at AnyU, according to the students, is "Sexuality" (103). This perfect class is mostly due to the professor, who uses expletives and personal stories to grab the attention of his students. Also, this class reflected what students "really learn in college" and it fuses the old standard "formal academic content [with] an informal, largely social world" (106).
In this chapter, Nathan presents herself as a researcher and presents the students at her college as the test subjects. As she does throughout the whole book, Nathan constantly is observing and noting all of the important changes since she has been in college, and trying to get a feel for what the freshman experience is. In this chapter, she notes the differences in language throughout class time and leisure time, and also what students feel is most important about the college experience. It is a very informative chapter, and a very interesting one because of that.
Discussion Leader Ch. 5 - Natalie
Nathan says as far as the “perfect” class “In the end, I saw the worth of this course, as well as its student appeal” (pg 105). My group feels that components of not necessarily the “perfect” class, but a good class include an easy professor, a class where you learn a lot, there is an openness amongst students and the material is intriguing and presented in an interesting way so you’re not bored.
Do you think the topics mentioned on pg 98 seem realistic?
On page 98 Nathan posts a questionnaire in the girls bathroom about what their late night conversations are about. The following topics were reported “in order of their frequency of mention: (1) boys, meeting boys, and sex, (2) bodies, bodily function, and body image, (3) relationships and relationship problems, (4) one’s childhood, personal history, and future, (5) TV, movies, games, and entertainment, and lastly, (6) alcohol and drug experiences” (pg 98). My group feels that this is an accurate example of what college student’s talk about. The only changes being boys number one most talked about thing is girls, meeting girls, and sex as well as alcohol and drug experiences being higher up on the list.
Pg 101 what is college for?
In Nathans book she says “The great majority of students saw elective social activities and interpersonal relationships as the main context for learning” (pg 101). As a group we feel that college definitely is a place where students come to learn so they can get a degree. Many of us are paying half our tuition if not all of it so we’re definitely not here to just throw thousands of dollars away on just making friendships. However college is definitely also about the experiences you have outside of the classroom and the long lasting friendships that you make. “Non-class-related learning was reported as high as 90 percent for some, and very few students ranked class activities as constituting more than 50 percent of what they learn in college” (pg 101).
Would you take your degree and run?
Nathan decides to post the question “If the university would hand you a bachelor’s degree right now, provided you paid for all your credits and left the dorms, would you take the degree and run?” (pg 101). The majority of students said they would not the number one reason being they want to stay in college for “the college experience” (pg 103). As for my group they too would not take their degree and run. They want to stay here to learn as much as they can as well as live it up and live the college experience that they’ve waited all their life for. I however would take the degree and run because I already know what I want to do with my life and I’m ready to start it!
Tuesday, May 4, 2010
Chapter 5 - Vocab (Beka W.)
Jargon: language (p. 92)
Reiterate: to say or do again (p. 93)
Reciprocity: a reciprocal state or relation (p. 93)
Elicitation: to draw or bring out or forth (p. 93)
Soliciting: to seek for (something) by entreaty (p. 94)
Discourse: conversation (p. 96)
Disengagement: the act or process of disengaging (p. 100)
Transfixed: to make or hold motionless with amazement, awe, terror, and so on. (p. 104)
Quintessential: the pure and concentrated essence of a substance (p. 106)
Chapter 5 Graphic Organizer Mr. Pesavent
The conventions of the classroom range from frequently asked questions, and what questions are the best, to why there is such a lack in class participation. In the dorms, students usually talked about sex, body image, personal history, entertainment, and alcohol and drugs. According to a poll Nathan conducted, students responded that out of everything they learn in college, sixty-five percent comes from outside of the classroom. Many students don’t go through college just to “buy” a degree. They go to college to learn new things, to earn their degree through hard work, and the college experience. According to many students at AnyU, the perfect class is a course called “Sexuality.”The class was considered perfect because it “reflected most students’ view of what they really learn in college, as well as the proportion of social versus academic content that they believed their learning to comprise,” (Nathan 106).
My Freshman Year: May 3, 2010
In chapters three and four, Nathan discussed two topics on every college student's mind: diversity and foreign exchange students. Our group was very surprised when Nathan discussed some of the community topics of the third chapter because of how similar it is to our experience in the dorms. It seems like everybody on my floor has his or her own little group of friends and just like Nathan says, “ there [are] few open invitations” to hang out with them (Nathan 55). When people go to get something to eat they don’t knock on everybody’s door, they only check with their circle of friends. RA’s try to plan meetings and activities, and often times residents will not show up, either because they have something more important to do or they do not want to do something without their circle of friends. Another part in Chapter three that caught our attention was the fact that “4 of 489 white males […] ate with (only) males of a different ethnicity” (64). We also have noticed that, while there is not as much diversity at Eau Claire as there is at American University, there tends to be very few groups of mixed ethnicity eating at the cafeteria. This could be for a number of reasons, but one of the main reasons is probably because people tend to hang out with people of similar interests to them. Since, when people go to eat they only invite their close group of friends, they may not think to ask a person who is not in their circle of close friends. The last thing we have noticed is that just like Nathan says; there are very few people of minorities eating in the cafeteria in general. I don’t know if it is because they are going out to eat or afraid of having to eat along in front of a group of people, but it is not very common to see someone of a separate ethnicity than you when you eat a meal at the cafeteria. It is too bad, because they are missing out on all of the fun of conversing with friends and eating in a decent environment.
Throughout the book Rebekah has been an outcast due to her age and because of this she is drawn to other “outsiders, and vice versa... Thus, the transfer student on my hall became a friend”. Since she spends a lot of time with them she is given a chance to interview them and see how they feel about their American college experience. The foreign exchange students commented on many things about college life here in America. The first issue that was brought up was the issue of American students. Foreign exchange students say that Americans are friendly, but only want surface level friendships they don’t try to have real friendships or relationships with the foreign exchange students. As harsh as this si our group agrees with Nathan. We also agree with Nathan on other issues she observed that were brought to her attention by the foreign exchange students. The fact that if you’re not involved in anything at Eau Claire it is much harder to meet people and make new friends. We also agree with the fact that some students are disrespectful to professors and some classes, mainly 100 level classes, are easy cheesy!